I was wondering if someone could move the rear wing on this (unfortunately not my) car so that:

1. Instead of being down below the exhausts, the center 'wing' portion is up higher midline between the exhausts outlets?

2. Remove the odd center bulge below the bumper

3. Paint the pedistals which hold up the wing portion black (normal) and black (matte) so they do not stand out as much.

Thanks!

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vote for ugliest 8er ive ever seen.

vote for ugliest 8er ive ever seen.

The white one? You realize that is entirely factory down to the S vin right? :confused

Lol, how is that ugly?

I'm no pro, but I was bored and played with it a little...

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s26/DHotard/8501.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s26/DHotard/8502.jpg

Needs more M badge.

Needs more M badge.

It is an M car...again down to the 'S' vin.

pretty sure the m badge and what appears to be an e36 m3 spoiler are not stock.

pretty sure the m badge and what appears to be an e36 m3 spoiler are not stock.

Correction, the E36 M3 uses the E31 spoiler:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partxref.do?part=51712260317&showus=on&showeur=on

Correction, the E36 M3 uses the E31 spoiler:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partxref.do?part=51712260317&showus=on&showeur=on

didnt know that. you learn something new everday. still what the hell was bmw thinking? i restate:

vote for ugliest 8er ive ever seen.

didnt know that. you learn something new everday. still what the hell was bmw thinking? i restate:

I am not a fan personally of adding the wing, and the rear valance, well, that is why I started this thread :shifty I think it looks much better with my suggested modification. (Thanks Dave!)

I hate people like you...I ran into someone like this about 4 years back.

Had ///M shit all over his 318, kept trying to tell me that ///M is a seperate company and they just put certain things on, blah blah blah.

That is an 850CSI end of story. There is no M850. The vin numbers are based on certain characteristics/build dates/body/trans etc, but there is nothing that makes your 850csi and ///M. Take the badge off.

Also about the wing. That is a RETROFIT KIT, the kit was made for cars 93+, meaning it was not built for the e31's that started in 89.

I hate people like you...I ran into someone like this about 4 years back.

Had ///M shit all over his 318, kept trying to tell me that ///M is a seperate company and they just put certain things on, blah blah blah.

That is an 850CSI end of story. There is no M850. The vin numbers are based on certain characteristics/build dates/body/trans etc, but there is nothing that makes your 850csi and ///M. Take the badge off.

Also about the wing. That is a RETROFIT KIT, the kit was made for cars 93+, meaning it was not built for the e31's that started in 89.
First, how many of my BMWs have you seen? I have no M badges on any of them.

Second, as stated in the OP, that is NOT my car, though I wouldn't mind having a CSi. I choose it since it was a white car and easy to see the contrast with the black.

Third, IF it was my car, I would take off the M badge on the trunk, but its not. But I will defend the owner. The fact is he DOES own an M car.

Fourth, The Csi also has specific suspension (shocks/sways/springs), brakes (which have the cursed M emblem on them!), mirrors, body kit, interior, steering rack (which I really want to get a hold of btw), various subtle appointments, *gasp* motorsport labeled door handles, and even a motorsport labeled engine cover and door sills! The list goes on from there as well. The car is more M then those American coup out automatic M3s, but I digress.

Fifth, I would hope it is the retrofit kit, seeing how that is the part number searched for. The question of whether the wing belongs on either car (E31 or E36) is another story, but even BMW themselves have a kit with application AND specific approval for it.

I hate people like you who make presumptive judgments on others without properly reading the thread let alone knowing about the poster.

http://www.bmwmregistry.com/faq/850cs/850cs_engine.jpg

In aside, the neatest feature is the CSi-only AHK system of the Euro cars.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1zX5dQkb-xQ&feature=related

I might as well add, I would agree with you on the poser 318, and it's nice to see another old(er) time member. Seems everyone nowadays is from 2005+.

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pwn myself, I didn't read much of the thread. I'm sorry.

I gotta be more careful, I was in rant mode today...

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pwn myself, I didn't read much of the thread. I'm sorry.

I gotta be more careful, I was in rant mode today...
We all go into rant mode...I have a low threshold for that red caddy...

omg that suspension is fucking crazy.. was that the 850??? what other bmws come with that option.. this is something new to me.. yay im a neub again..

omg that suspension is fucking crazy.. was that the 850??? what other bmws come with that option.. this is something new to me.. yay im a neub again..

The hydraulic four-wheel-steering
Maybe what makes the 850CSi most special was the Active Rear-Axle Kinematics system which was standard on all Euro CSis. It's abbreviation (AHK) is the abbreviation of the german expression for it (Aktive Hinterachs-Kinematik). While normal passively steering rear axles allow the wheels to be slightly turned by the forces acting on them when cornering, the hydraulics of the AHK turns in the rear wheels before those forces build up. The AHK is therefore a real for-wheel-steering system!

From a speed of about 60 kph (37 mph, BMW doesn't disclose the correct numbers) and up, a computer controlled hydraulic system steers the rear wheels depending on the turn angle of the front wheels. All four wheels then turn into the same direction, minimize weight shifts (the CSi weighing almost two tons even beats Turbo-Porsches in lane change maneouvers) and even allow steering adjustment in a curve to an extent that would inevitably cause you to crash in any other car. According to various sources the maximum angle the rear wheels turn is between 1.5 and 2.5 degrees (again, BMW doesn't tell).

With the introduction of the CSi the Active Rear-Axle Kinematic was also on the option list for the normal 8 series. But the additional amount of money you had to pay was 6400 Euros (DEM 12500), so a non-CSi with AHK will belong to the rarest things on this planet.
Source: http://www.e31.net/models.html

the chop looks pretty nice, i'm not sold the wing though but its your taste not mine.

and the AHK system is pretty slicks stuff, i'd like to take an 8 with the system on the track and see how it feels

The hydraulic four-wheel-steering
Maybe what makes the 850CSi most special was the Active Rear-Axle Kinematics system which was standard on all Euro CSis. It's abbreviation (AHK) is the abbreviation of the german expression for it (Aktive Hinterachs-Kinematik). While normal passively steering rear axles allow the wheels to be slightly turned by the forces acting on them when cornering, the hydraulics of the AHK turns in the rear wheels before those forces build up. The AHK is therefore a real for-wheel-steering system!

From a speed of about 60 kph (37 mph, BMW doesn't disclose the correct numbers) and up, a computer controlled hydraulic system steers the rear wheels depending on the turn angle of the front wheels. All four wheels then turn into the same direction, minimize weight shifts (the CSi weighing almost two tons even beats Turbo-Porsches in lane change maneouvers) and even allow steering adjustment in a curve to an extent that would inevitably cause you to crash in any other car. According to various sources the maximum angle the rear wheels turn is between 1.5 and 2.5 degrees (again, BMW doesn't tell).

With the introduction of the CSi the Active Rear-Axle Kinematic was also on the option list for the normal 8 series. But the additional amount of money you had to pay was 6400 Euros (DEM 12500), so a non-CSi with AHK will belong to the rarest things on this planet.
Source: http://www.e31.net/models.html

thanks for the info dude i never knew about this its always nice to learn something new..

IIRC the major difference between it and other 4WS systems is, this is designed for high speed control...meaning both wheels turn in the same direction, not opposite as often is seen on the Japanese cars (which gives low speed maneuverability).

In other words:

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and not

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