Kimi 2010

[Bane2871]

Apparently the Finnish press is saying that Kimi has no ride for 2010. Anyone have any info to back up or contradict this?


P.S. I don't have a link to an article or story. This came second hand from a friend who lives in Finland.

[Hugo]

Dude, read any F1 site, such as PLanetf1.com, toilef1.com (french), autosport.com

This is such old news, Al Gore wrote that.

Kimi basically said he want to go to McLaren or else he may as well sit ou the 2010 season.

He's greedy. Ferrari buying him out means he gets his full 2010 salary AND he wants like 25 million$ on top of that. The guy is delusional.

Clearly he can drive a fast car fast, but he doesn't deserve such as salary when you realize he can't develop a car as well as others, or make a shitty car go fast, like a true champ should.

So it's doubtful that Mclaren will want to fork over so much money for a guy who will either be destroyed by Hamilton, or will battle it out with him so much that some third guy will benefit from internal wars and snag the title from under their feet.

[bigrojo37]

hahahahah Kimi is a beast. He clearly doesnt play the BS game that every F1 drivers plays. As far as the amount of money he got and wants...its completely ok for wanting that much. He had another year left in his contract...Ferrari has to pay him out of it plus whatever money he is owed by sponsors. He is not delusional, he is just a good in the business. As for a ride...yeah this is old news. McLaren or nothing.

[Bane2871]

So sue me. I don't have the time to read the endless number of articles on dozens of sites regarding driver signings.

In any case, Kimi is MIA next year.

[Deadeye]

Hugo, that is all speculation with regards to how much he is asking for from McLaren, a
so don't try to pass that off as fact. Word on the street is he is already reading over an offer from them...calling him greedy and delusional off of purely speculatory reports in the media about how much he is asking for is a bit much.

[bigrojo37]

Even if he is asking for that much money, its not being dilusional. Its Kimi and Company being smart. Albert Haynesworth of the Washington Redskins has a 100 million dollar contract...Dan Snyder is the Skins owner...DAN SNYDER IS DILUSIONAL.

[jknopp44]

Originally Posted by bigrojo37

Even if he is asking for that much money, its not being dilusional. Its Kimi and Company being smart. Albert Haynesworth of the Washington Redskins has a 100 million dollar contract...Dan Snyder is the Skins owner...DAN SNYDER IS DILUSIONAL.

This is FACT!!!

[Deadeye]

Also fact...Kimi was the highest paid athlete last year second only to tiger woods!!

I personally think Kimi has already signed a deal with NcLaren and this is all bullshit to begin with...that or he will be very soon. I imagine his desire to win another WDC and prove the critics and Ferrari wrong is stronger than is desire for more money, especially after the buyout on his contract. We wi all know within the next couple weeks though and until the announcement is made we can only wait.

[Hugo]

Originally Posted by Deadeye

Hugo, that is all speculation with regards to how much he is asking for from McLaren, a
so don't try to pass that off as fact. Word on the street is he is already reading over an offer from them...calling him greedy and delusional off of purely speculatory reports in the media about how much he is asking for is a bit much.

He's getting a full buy out of his contract and IF he indeed wants just as much on top of that when his results do not justify that, that's being greedy and delusional.

[Deadeye]

Originally Posted by Hugo

He's getting a full buy out of his contract and IF he indeed wants just as much on top of that when his results do not justify that, that's being greedy and delusional.

His buyout shouldn't be a factor in a new contract with a different team. If your last month from a prior employer was paid in full and you were asked to leave early, would you work the first month at your next employer for free or at a prorated price taking in to account your last employer's compensation for being let go early??? I don't think so. What his next team pays him should have nothing to do with the money Ferrari is paying him for buying out his contract. Not only that, we have no idea what he is actually asking for, and this all media speculation to begin with, so maybe he really isn't being greedy at all...we DON'T KNOW, and outside of Kimi's camp and McLaren, NO ONE KNOWS.

[bigrojo37]

Besides...WHO GIVES A SHIT if he is being greedy? He is a WC Driver...he has every right to ask for a large contract. Plus, its Kimi...he can do whatever he wants.

[mcclaskz]

Originally Posted by bigrojo37

Besides...WHO GIVES A SHIT if he is being greedy? He is a WC Driver...he has every right to ask for a large contract. Plus, its Kimi...he can do whatever he wants.

Exactly! Don't we have enough wealth envy in our country?

[Hugo]

Originally Posted by bigrojo37

Besides...WHO GIVES A SHIT if he is being greedy? He is a WC Driver...he has every right to ask for a large contract. Plus, its Kimi...he can do whatever he wants.

He just doesn't drive like he's worth it. That's the problem.

[JTninja]

Originally Posted by Hugo

He just doesn't drive like he's worth it. That's the problem.

He does though! Look at how he's performed since he came to the sport. He ran with McLaren when their cars were terrible in terms of reliablility. 38% of his races at McLaren ended with reliability problems. Yet he still managed to be within points of winning the championship going into the last race not only once but twice. In 2008 he set the race fastest lap 10 times!

Its hard to do well when you have the worst car in the field (Its been agreed that Ferrari's the worst, with Renault 2nd worst). Look at what happened when Massa crashed and they had to find replacements. It takes so much skill just to stay in the points with that thing.

[Hugo]

Originally Posted by JTninja

He does though! Look at how he's performed since he came to the sport. He ran with McLaren when their cars were terrible in terms of reliablility. 38% of his races at McLaren ended with reliability problems. Yet he still managed to be within points of winning the championship going into the last race not only once but twice. In 2008 he set the race fastest lap 10 times!

Its hard to do well when you have the worst car in the field (Its been agreed that Ferrari's the worst, with Renault 2nd worst). Look at what happened when Massa crashed and they had to find replacements. It takes so much skill just to stay in the points with that thing.

Not saying he's unskilled, but the fastest laps bit reminded me of Frentzen back when he was teamed with Villeneuve. He had many fastest laps yet he still sucked somewhat. In one magazine, they summed him up with one sentence : «fast - when it doesn't matter».

I dunno who agreed that the Ferrari was that bad, but anyway, the problem with Kimi is that since he won his championship, his motivation seems to have vanished, or at least it's a roller-coaster.

[peterman]

Put Kimi in the Lotus and he's gonna drive circles around people! He needs to be racing for a team with that north Atlantic blood!!

[Hugo]

Originally Posted by peterman

Put Kimi in the Lotus and he's gonna drive circles around people! He needs to be racing for a team with that north Atlantic blood!!

Right...

[JClark]

I love how the Kimi haters say he's not worth his asking price because they think he's lost motivation, as if they have any clue how to determine either.

[Hugo]

Originally Posted by JClark

I love how the Kimi haters say he's not worth his asking price because they think he's lost motivation, as if they have any clue how to determine either.

I'm not hating, just watch him. This guy is not doing the miracles you expect from a guy earning that much.

[JClark]

Originally Posted by Hugo

I'm not hating, just watch him. This guy is not doing the miracles you expect from a guy earning that much.

What miracles do you expect form him? Poles and wins every race in a car that's been off pace all year?

People gripe about how much the Yankees pay Arod too. It's a business transaction. If you were KR, wouldn't you try to get as much money as possible?

While we're benchracing with baseless opinions, I dont think Kimi gives a damn what happens next year. He gets $17M to not drive at all, $15M total to drive for McMerc, etc. He cant lose. If I were him I'd take a year off or quit all together and go rally and race snowmobiles with my friends in Finland.

[indy525]

Just because he shows no emotion and talks like a robot means that he doesn't have any motivation? I think not!

I think Kimi/Mclaren combo would be hard to beat.

[Shak. G]

Undoubtedly if Kimi thinks he is in the best position to make demands as to what he is worth, then that’s his prerogative. However if market value does not support this then it is simply not going to happen at this time. There is no way that McLaren will pay him more than Lewis Hamilton annual wage, period! The trickle down effect then comes into play as no other team will even consider paying him ten million pounds per annum. Now he can take a year off from F1 but I am not in the position to pronounce if that is the best strategy. It may or simply may not be, is he willing to take that risk? I may be more inclined to support Jensen Button’s cause when it comes for a raise in emolument given that he is starting from way below and has sacrificed a lot at the start of this season with Brawn. In the last four years there have been four different world champs, so if you take it with a grain of salt, then he is not at all in a super commanding position. A little history for the young guys out there. Be humble and compromising. Never forget where you came from.

[Ianbiz]

Originally Posted by Hugo

I'm not hating, just watch him. This guy is not doing the miracles you expect from a guy earning that much.

But hes good with the press

[AC Coupe]

Originally Posted by Shak. G

Undoubtedly if Kimi thinks he is in the best position to make demands as to what he is worth, then that’s his prerogative. However if market value does not support this then it is simply not going to happen at this time. There is no way that McLaren will pay him more than Lewis Hamilton annual wage, period! The trickle down effect then comes into play as no other team will even consider paying him ten million pounds per annum. Now he can take a year off from F1 but I am not in the position to pronounce if that is the best strategy. It may or simply may not be, is he willing to take that risk? I may be more inclined to support Jensen Button’s cause when it comes for a raise in emolument given that he is starting from way below and has sacrificed a lot at the start of this season with Brawn. In the last four years there have been four different world champs, so if you take it with a grain of salt, then he is not at all in a super commanding position. A little history for the young guys out there. Be humble and compromising. Never forget where you came from.

What did Button sacrifice?

[Shak. G]

Originally Posted by AC Coupe

What did Button sacrifice?

Obviously you haven't been following the F1 circuit for some time now. Never mind, it's not a big deal really. Here goes, Button remained loyal to the team which rose out of the ashes of Honda's decision to pull out of F1 last December. I hope at least you have at least a slight recollection of the honda cars, with the "earth dreams" decal.
Button, took a pay cut of £5m down to £3m in order to race with Brawn.
All for your information and guidance.